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Where's this located?

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Washington.

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Washington, D.C.?

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Oh, state.

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Oh, I was going to say, whoa.

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You're not going to believe this or maybe you are.

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This is Deputy from the Sheriff's Office in San Diego, California.

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Yes.

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And by the time I'd seen it myself, I didn't think I was just flipping out and I would

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have quit.

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But I had two witnesses with me.

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And we just saw a couple of things that none of us can explain.

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And our business officer was talking about on the radio and they said we ought to call

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you.

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Okay, I'd like to hear about it.

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Well.

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Can you talk from that phone?

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay.

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They were kind of cylindrical in shape.

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I mean, you know, they looked kind of like maybe a cigar that was fat in the middle.

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Yes.

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That's how you kind of tapered it each end.

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Uh-huh.

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And I had a real bright, extremely bright white light right in the middle of it.

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And it had rings on each end.

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It looked like black, you know, like the rings around the planet, Saturn or whatever it is.

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Yes.

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It looked like it had a couple of them on the end.

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And then the first one I saw, I thought a plane was crashing.

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We were in a remote area on top of a mountain.

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And dark all around us, you know, there's no other lights or obstructions or anything.

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And we were out there checking a stolen car.

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And I looked at this thing and I really, I thought a plane, I almost called the business

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officer, there's a plane crashing because it had extremely bright, just bright, bright,

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red flashing.

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I don't know what it was.

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It was lights or it was light not gaseous fumes or what.

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But it looked like it was on fire.

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You know, it's just bright.

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And it wasn't that far away from us.

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And I realized it was hovering.

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It was just hovering there.

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And that continued for all two or three minutes.

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And then the extremely red stuff died down.

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And then we saw all sorts of flashing, red, blue, green.

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And what other color?

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Red, blue, green.

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And white and orange.

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But the white was just a steady white coming right out of the middle, just a continuous

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blue.

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And all these other lights were flashing around it.

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And we got the binoculars out and we're looking at things through that.

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And it just continued over there for about five minutes.

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And then all at once it just shut everything down except this continuous glowing white.

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And it just took off.

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And I mean, took off.

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I'd never seen anything disappear so fast in my life.

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Which direction?

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It went west.

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Okay.

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Towards the ocean.

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And it continued to gain altitude.

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And I was watching it through the binoculars.

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And I could see it extremely well when we first observed it.

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And I'd say probably the complete time it took it to disappear from sight through a pair

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of 8x50 binoculars was a total of maybe 12 seconds at the most.

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I mean, it just took off and it was gone.

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So I called.

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And I mean, this other guy we were talking about, we called my beat partner on the radio

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and I asked him if he happened to see it.

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And he didn't.

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And approximately five minutes later, I observed a second one doing the same thing.

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This one was quite a bit further away.

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It was over what we call Mount Woodson area.

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And he could observe this one.

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And this one continued to hover at quite an extreme altitude.

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The same thing, bright red, green, blue, orange, yellow flashing light with a continuous white

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glow out of the middle for approximately 15 minutes.

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And then all at once it did the same thing.

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Shut everything down and just took off like a bat out of hell.

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And it only took it about five seconds to disappear from view.

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Now it was at such an altitude that I could not detect any sort of shape like on this other one.

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Yes.

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I could not see the rings except for once it looked like both rings were on one side of it.

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But I mean, it was at such a distance the way it was kind of, excuse me, I mean,

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launch hazy through the binoculars even.

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The only thing you could really tell for sure was that the extremely bright red, blue,

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and all these other lights.

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And I mean, you just hovered one spot.

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We had a good point of reference.

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It was a bright star directly adjacent to it.

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And it never wavered an inch.

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And then all of a sudden the light was gone.

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Okay, do you have any estimate in size on those?

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Oh, man, I couldn't tell.

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The first one we saw, I would say, was extremely large.

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But due to the altitude, I really couldn't get a reference point to tell, you know,

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how close the thing was to it.

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Right.

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It could have been clear out over the ocean for all I know.

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But it looked like it was maybe a mile away and about the size of a football field.

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Yeah, my partner agrees, because it was extremely big.

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But like I said, there's no telling how far away from us it was.

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And with all those flashing lights, I really couldn't tell.

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But I think what we saw at first was some sort of fuel burn off or something,

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because it really looked, I mean, there was flames and it looked like a plane was on fire.

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And going down is what it looked like.

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But I mean, it just hovered dead still for a good five minutes at least.

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And we saw the first one at a quarter to eight, and the second one after that one disappeared.

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About five minutes later, it would have made it about five minutes to eight.

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Okay.

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I still don't really believe it.

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I mean, it's kind of like I'm trying to talk myself out of, I saw it.

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You know, it's weird.

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Right, were these fairly low?

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The first one was very low.

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I mean, it looked like it was extremely low.

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The second one was a pretty high altitude.

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Okay.

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The first one, it looked like it was all maybe, oh, would you say,

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it was lower than Mount Woodson, lower than the fuel mount.

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That would have made it, our elevation here is about 1,300 feet,

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and Mount Woodson is about, what, 26, ain't it?

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So it looked like it was below the peak of Mount Woodson, so I guess maybe 2,000 feet.

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But there was also a third officer that saw the second one,

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and he was on his way to take a runaway report.

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And about, let's see, I was 745 for the first one, about 255 for the second one.

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Right.

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Okay, that's great.

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Yeah, pretty good to do something, guys with a white suit to pick the other one.

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No way, tomorrow.

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I ain't kidding you, if I hadn't been somebody with me, and I'd seen that first one,

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I really thought I'd flipped out.

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Okay, if we send you a questionnaire, would you take a little time to fill it out?

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You bet.

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It takes about 30 minutes.

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I heard people tell me about seeing things before, you know, and I was like,

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I've seen a lot of civilian aircraft, and military aircraft, and Navy aircraft,

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and as far as I know, we ain't got nothing that can do that.

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And it's equipped with that kind of lighting devices.

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And was that light such, the brilliant light, such that it did any illumination of the sky?

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No, I would say it actually illuminated the sky.

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It was just a steady, continuous, bright glow.

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Uh-huh.

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And it didn't illuminate the ground or anything like that.

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And that light stayed on?

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That light was continuous.

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And the other one just kind of flashed and came on and would stay on for a bit and die down.

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And it's kind of hard to explain, really.

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Okay.

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Yeah, right.

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That's a good description.

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Like, have you ever seen one of these handheld, what they call sparklers, these kids hold these?

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Oh, sure.

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That's what it looked like.

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Now, real continuous glow out of the middle and then all these other colors going around it.

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Okay.

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Well, we sure appreciate this.

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And if we get any additional information on this case, we'll get back to you and let you know.

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Okay.

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In the meantime, we'll get that questionnaire off.

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All right.

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Yeah, I'd be happy to fill it out for you.

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Thank you very much.

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Uh-huh.

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See you later.

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Bye.

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Bye.